Shibata: Let me start by telling you the story of an experience I had at my parents' house as a young kid. I'm from Ishikawa Prefecture, and I lived there with my parents when I was little. There's a shrine close to the house, and ever since I was a kid, when night would fall I'd hear what sounded like loads of voices whispering as they approached. Our house was on a corner, and the voices would pass by us as they turned it. Due to the positioning of the house, it was really easy to hear the voices.
When I was young, I wasn't aware of the concept of "ghosts", and I used to wonder to myself, "What are those voices that come towards us in the middle of the night?" I did, however, intuit that they were something I wasn't supposed to look at; even despite my youth, I got the feeling that if I did look at them, they'd take me away somewhere.
Even still, I had to get a glimpse of them. I tried to come up with some way I could figure out what they were without directly looking at them, when I was suddenly struck by the thought that I'd probably be fine if I looked at them through the broken camera my dad had given me.
Since the camera was broken, I ultimately wasn't able to see them, but that idea became the foundation of the Fatal Frame series. The Camera Obscura comes from this idea that you can't look at ghosts, but maybe, if you're looking through the lens of a camera, you can fight back?
Let me bring us back to the story about the procession of whispering voices. There was one time when I was able to catch a glimpse of whoever the voices belonged to. The bathroom in our house was next to the front door, which had frosted glass that afforded you a rather indistinct view of whatever was on the other side. Once, I woke up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, and I managed to catch a glimpse of "them" through the frosted glass.
It was a long procession of people holding lanterns in their hands. I thought to myself, "There's no way there'd be that many people walking around with lanterns these days," and was glad that I couldn't get a good look at them. I don't know what would've happened to me if I had.
I have also, on occasion, seen ghosts around the house. I think they might be people who wandered away from the procession of lanterns, trying to take a shortcut through the house. Once in a while, I'd see someone standing in front of the pillar in the bedroom I slept in.
Back then, I didn't really understand much about ghosts, so I took a good hard look at them. The way they looked inspired the effects you see on the ghosts as depicted within the Fatal Frame series.
By the way, the processions of whispers don't come from the shrine anymore. A small park was built on the grounds of the shrine, and a tree there that was rumoured to be haunted was cut down. You don't get the unique atmosphere of a shrine where the whole feeling totally changes in a snap anymore, and I think that's why it stopped.