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.Demou tay Nga Ngố kia giờ lo làm unit rồi

http://www.lichsuvn.info/forum/showthread.php?t=27372
Thằng post phản động nhưng mà cờ quạt quân kỳ của nó dùng cũng đc này bác

Nó lấy trong wiki ra không chứ giỏi giang gì thằng đó.![]()


[/spoil]this is our try, but we not uses the Total war 2 language, so just the name is good, and other is depend on you guy
1171-1175 faction leader: Li Anh Tong (real name: Li Thien To) die at 40.:medium command, high authority, medium management, Chivalry
Advisor: Minh Khong (budhist priest), Do Anh Vu (Domestic), Hoang Nghia Huyen (Contruction), Ly Cong Tin (Agriculture)
General: To Hien Thanh (army): high command, medium Authority, high management, chivalry (die at 1179)
Captain: Luu Vu Nhi (Army): low command, low authority, medium management, Infantry
Captain: Hua Viem (Navy): medium command, low authority, medium management, navy.
Captain: Hoang Nghia Huyen: medium command, low authority, low management, infantry
captain: Do Binh Di : medium command, medium authority, high management, infantry
Captain: Dam Di Mong: low command, low Authority, high management, infantry
Faction Heir: Duong Tu Minh Married to Thieu Dung Princess(at 1140). Medium command, medium authority, chivalry.
Faction Heir: Li Long Xuong(?-?) low command, very low authority, low management, chivalry.
Faction Heir: Li Long Can(1173-1210) Low command, low authority, very low management, chivalry.
Faction Heir: Li Long Tuong (1174-1257): high command, low authority, high management, chivalry 1226 Goto Korea be come General in Goryeo Faction.
1176- 1210: Faction Leader: Li Cao Tong (real name Li Long Can) die at 38: low command, low authority, low management, chivalry
Advisor: Tran Ly (fishery), Tran Thua (military)
General: Tran Tu Khanh : medium command, medium authority, medium management, Chivalry
Captain: Tran Thu Do: medium command, high authority, low management chivalry
Faction heir: Li Hao Sam(1194-1227): low command, low authority, low management chivalry
1210- 1224: Faction Leader: die at 33 Li Hue Tong( Real nam Li Hao Sam) low command, low authority, low management chivalry
Advisor: Tran Thua (military)
General :Tran Thu Do medium command, high authority, low management chivalry
Faction heir: Tran Lieu married to Li Thuan Thien
Faction heir: Li Phat Kim (1217-?) Female : low command, low authority, low management.
1224-1225 : Li Chieu Hoang (Li Phat Kim) low command, low authority, low management.
Advisor: Tran Thua( military), Tran Thu Do(Politic), Tran Lieu( domestic)
General : Tran Thu Do medium command, high authority, low management chivalry
Faction Heir: Tran Canh married to Li Phat Kim at 1224
1225-1258: Faction leader : Tran Thai Tong died at age 60 (Tran Canh): high command, medium authority, high management, chivalry
Advisor: Tran Thua (military), Tran Thu Do( Politic, Domestic), Tran Lieu (Agriculture and fishery)
General And Faction Heir Tran Quoc Tuan: very high Command, medium authority, High management, Chivalry.
Faction Heir: Tran Quang Khai : High command, mediumAuthority, high management, chivalry.
Faction Heir: Tran Hoang: High command, mediumAuthority, high management, chivalry.
Faction Heir: Tran Quoc Khang: low command. low Authority. low management, chivalry.
Faction Heir: Tran Nhat Vinh:low command. low Authority. low management, chivalry.
Faction Heir: Tran Ich Tac: low command. low Authority. low management, chivalry. go to Mongol Khanate 1285
Faction Heir: Tran Nhat Duat: High Command. Medium Authority. Medium Management, Chilvary.
FAction Heir: Tran Quang Xuong: low command. low Authority. low management, chivalry
Captain: To Trung Tu: High command, Medium Authority, medium Management, chivalry.
captain: NGuyen Duong: medium command, lơ authority, lơ Management, Infantry.
1258-1271: Faction Leader: Tran Thanh Tong died at age 51 (Tran Hoang) High command, mediumAuthority, high management, chivalry.
Advisor: Tran Thu Do (Domestic), Tran Thai Tong(Politic and Military)
General: Tran Quoc Tuan very high Command, medium authority, High management, Chivalry.
Captain: Tran Quang Khai : High command, mediumAuthority, high management, chivalry.
Captain: Tran Quoc Khang: low command. low Authority. low management, chivalry.
Captain Tran Nhat Vinh:low command. low Authority. low management, chivalry.
Captain Tran Ich Tac: low command. low Authority. low management, chivalry. go to Mongol Khanate 1285
Captain Tran Nhat Duat: High Command. Medium Authority. Medium Management, Chilvary.
Captain Tran Quang Xuong: low command. low Authority. low management, chivalry
Faction Heir Tran Kham: High command, Medium Authority, High management, chivalry.
[/spoil]"Guerrilla warfare" you said? Yes, but do you know who they are? They are peasant indeed. They volunteer to join the war, untrained, unpaid, and their only armour is the love of their country, their own village, their own ricefield and family. But they are really an important part in the "People's war". They know every cm of their town, so they can hide, set traps, ambush, sudden attack, then disappear. The enemy can't know where and when they will fall into a trap, or get an arrow, or are the farmers over there enemy? But in the game, peasant is the weakest unit (well, it's the truth that they are not trained for hand to hand combat). The battlefield is not simply a specific field like "ok here, in this side of the line is our place, and there are the enemy.". The battle can be found everywhere. How can we put it into the game ?
About the structure of the army, in the main, Dai Viet in this age have 3 kind:
- The regular army: under the directly command of the court. There was 2 kind (maybe i use wrong word to call it, but i can't translate the old name to English):
+ Royal army: bodyguard and royal army. Protect the king and his family, the capital, and some important place like homeland of the imperial family. They were paid, and were professional soldiers.
+ Regular army: they took turns to bear arms. Every mature man has been chose must join to the army some week a month, then returned to the farm, and another one took over from him. They protected outside the capital, the store, prison, office... They were unpaid, and worked as a farmer when they didn't bear arms.
- The militia: under the command of the government of the region. Like regular army, but they protected they own region.
- The peasant: they were common people, lead by a prestigious man in their town, usually a martial arts master, or the military leader. In peace they were farmer, trader... but in war, they fighted to protect they own village. They usually fighted as a guerilla. And of course, they were unpaid.
In Tran dynastry, there was another kind: the prince's army. Each prince has his own land, and has the right to recruitment in his land. These army rather warlike, only less than royal army. They were unpaid.
But of course, i think these thing are not help alot for the modder. We trying to find out about troops types, armor, weapons and uniforms
[/spoil]Ok, this's our suggest about units
CITY
- lv1(Village watch):
Daiviet peasant (tầm vông – sharpen bamboo)(max available 2) (light infantry, poor morale, poor stamina, bonus fighting cavalry, hide in long grass)
Daiviet peasant crossbowmen(max available 4) (poor morale, poor stamina, use machete to melee, hide in long grass, poison bolt)
- lv2(Town watch):
Daiviet peasant (max available 4)
Daiviet peasant crossbowmen(max available 4)
Daiviet patrolmen (max available 4) (mã tấu - machete) (light, average morale, average stamina, hide in long grass)
- lv3(Town guard):
Daiviet peasant(max available 6)
Daiviet peasant crossbowmen, (max available 6)
Daiviet patrolmen (max available 4)
Compost hurlers(max available 2) (average morale, poor stamina, use compost jar to hurl and machete to melee, fast moving, hide in long grass, fast moving (I don't think you want to know "what's in the jar?" :sweating: but we really had used it :sick:)
- lv4(City watch):
Daiviet peasant+1 exp (max available 6)
Daiviet peasant crossbowmen +1exp (max available 6)
Daiviet patrolmen (max available 6)
Compost hurlers(max available 3)
Daiviet partisan (spear) (max available 4) (light, average morale, average stamina, bonus fighting calvary, use machete to melee, hide in long grass)
- lv5(Militia drill square):
Daiviet peasant+1 exp, (max available 6)
Daiviet peasant crossbowmen +1exp, (max available 6)
Daiviet patrolmen + 1exp (max available 6)
Compost hurlers(max available 3)
Daiviet partisan (spear) (max available 6)
(Daiviet) War buffaloes(max available 2) (heavy cavalry, good morale, average stamina, can run amok, scare enemy, use machete to melee)
- lv6(Militia barracks):
Daiviet peasant +2 exp, (max available 6)
Daiviet peasant crossbowmen +2exp, (max available 6)
Daiviet patrolmen +1exp, (max available 6)
Compost hurlers(max available 4)
Daiviet partisan (spear) +1exp, (max available 6)
(Daiviet) War buffaloes .(max available 3)
CASTLE
INFANTRY:
- lv1:
Daiviet patrolmen (max available 4)
- lv2:
Daiviet patrolmen (max available 6)
Daiviet partisan (spear) (max available 4)
- lv3:
Daiviet patrolmen +1exp (max available 6)
Daiviet partisan (spear) +1 exp (max available 4)
Daiviet militia pikemen (max available 6) (light, average morale, good stamina, bonus fighting calvary, use dagger-axe and machete to melee)
Prince's spearmen(max available 3) (heavy, good morale, good stamina, bonus fighting calvary, use falchion to melee)
- lv4:
Daiviet patrolmen +1exp (max available 6),
Daiviet partisan (spear) + 1exp (max available 6),
Daiviet militia pikemen (max available 6)
Prince's spearmen (max available 5)
Prince's swordmen (max available 3) (heavy, good morale, good stamina)
- lv5:
Daiviet patrolmen +1exp (max available 6),
Daiviet partisan (spear) + 1exp (max available 6),
Daiviet militia pikemen (max available 6)
Prince's spearmen +1exp(max available 5),
Prince's swordmen (max available 5),
Prince's pikemen (max available 4) (heavy, good morale, good stamina, bonus fighting cavalry, use pike and falchion to melee)
RANGER: (strong position)
- lv1:
javelinmen (max available 4) (light, average morale, average stamina, effect against armour, use falchion to melee, fast moving)
Daiviet crossbowmen (max available 4) (light, average morale, good stamina, effect against armour, use falchion to melee, fast moving)
- lv2:
javelinmen (max available 6)
Daiviet crossbowmen (max available 6)
Daiviet Archers (max available 4) (light, average morale, good stamina, use falchion to melee, fast moving)
- lv3:
javelinmen +1exp (max available 6)
Daiviet crossbowmen (max available 6)
Daiviet Archers (max available 4)
Prince’s Archers (max available 4) (light, good morale, good stamina, long range missile, use falchion to melee, fast moving, can use sharpen bamboo)
- lv4:
javelinmen +1exp(max available 6),
Daiviet crossbowmen +1exp (max available 6),
Daiviet Archers (max available 4)
Prince's archers (max available 4)
Prince’s Fireball hurlers (max available 3) (good morale, good stamina, effect against armour, use falchion to melee, scare enemy, fast moving)
- lv5:
Javelinmen +1exp(max available 6),
Daiviet crossbowmen +1exp (max available 6)
Daiviet Archers + 1exp (max available 6)
Prince's archers (max available 5)
Prince’s Fireball hurlers (max available 3)
CAVALRY: (weak position, except the elephant)
- lv 2: (castle lv1 don't have calvary)
Mitilia cavalry.(max available 1) (light cavalry, average morale, good stamina, use spear to charge and machete to melee, fast moving)
- lv3:
Militia cavalry (max available 3)
War buffaloes (max available 3)
- lv4:
Militia cavalry +1exp, (max available 3)
War buffaloes, (max available 3)
Prince's cavalry (giáo + kiếm)(max available 1) (heavy cavalry, good morale, good stamina, use bow and sword)
War Elephant(max available 2)* (heavy, good morale, good stamina, can run amok, can hide in jungle, scare enemy)
- lv5:
militia cavalry +1exp,(max available 3)
war buffaloes, (max available 3)
Prince's cavalry (max available 2)
War Elephant (max available 3)*
Elephant archer(max available 2)* (heavy, good morale, good stamina, can run amok, can hide in jungle, scare enemy, can use missile) (white elephants, amored. White elephants are rare elephants, ususally used as a gift.)
note ( *) : unit only available in region which has elephant
SIEGE:
- lv 2:
small onager (max available 2)
- lv 3:
small onager (max available 2)
big onager (max available 2)
- lv 4:
small onager (max available 4)
big onager (max available 3)
bamboo bombard (max available 2) (use a appropriate bamboo (about flexible and hard), wind rope tight on it, disposable)
-lv 5:
small catapult (max available 4)
big catapult (max available 4)
bamboo bombard (max available 2)
copper bombard (max available 1) (rather like medieval 2 bombard, but smaller)
SPECIAL BUILDING
+ MILITARY ACADEMY (only available in Thang Long)
this house is already in Thang Long from the beginning of the game
- lv 1:(available from beginning game)
Daiviet Royal spearmen (max available 2) (heavy, very good morale, very good stamina, well armour, bonus fighting cavalry)
- lv 2:
Daiviet Royal spearmen (max available 4)
Daiviet Royal swordmen (max available 2) (heavy, very good morale, very good stamina, well armour)
Daiviet Royal Archers (max available 2) (heavy, very good morale, very good stamina, well armour, long ranger missle, effect against armour, can use sharpen bamboo)
- lv 3:
Daiviet Royal spearmen(max available 4)+ 1 exp
Daiviet Royal swordmen(max available 4)
Daiviet Royal Archer (max available 4)
COMMUNITY LONG HOUSE
Chance to get this house is 25% /turn(from town) and only available in highland
-lv 1(high house):
Daiviet highlander crossbowmen (max available 1) (poison bolt (damage as fire arrow but more accurate), long ranger missile, effect against armour, use strange blade to melee, bonus fighting in jungle, fast moving)
-lv 2(community house):
Daiviet highlander crossbowmen (max available 2) +1exp
-lv 3(Community long house):
Daiviet highlander crossbowmen (max available 4) +1exp
Weapon upgrade
spear -> shining spear with red tassel
Machete) -> Falchion
sword -> sword with red tassel
Dagger-axe -> halberd
Updating.....
We are discussing about skins now. We found an artirst, but he's a student and preparing for his final examination in university, so we must wait at least to next week.

. Nếu kiếm đc thì có khi để nguyên cho nó nhiều Một số mẫu áo hiệu. Ban đầu sware cũng sợ là giống với lính lệ nhà Nguyễn hay mẫu quân phục lính tốt nhà Thanh, nhưng sau một hồi cách điệu tào lao thì lại thấy giống áo tứ thân cô đầu hát ả đào hơn. ~@)
Phác thảo
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Bản màu
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Áo giáp giấy. Bản vẽ mô tả thôi, chứ thực ra thì các mẫu concept đều chỉ lòi ra 2 cái cầu vai để biết anh lính đang mặc cái gì...[HIDE]
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Mũ tứ phương. Vì sự phức tạp không đáng có của nó nên phải làm 1 mục riêng. Ờ, nhưng trình độ có hạn nên sware không vẽ màu được cho mấy mẫu họa tiết. Đành để dịp khác vậy.
Dựa trên một mẫu trong phim "khát vọng Thăng Long" của bác Đào Thoát, giống mũ của thái giám thời Hán...[HIDE]
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Cái này là từ một bức tượng thời Lê. Na ná loại mũ Triển Chiêu hay đội ( chắc vậy :"P ). Có lẽ là giấy bồi bọc vải. Họa tiết trên mũ sware dùng bông hoa sen cách điệu, chụp bằng máy ảnh cho chất lượng không tốt lắm, không vẽ màu được Q__Q.[HIDE]
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Mẫu cổ điển trước giờ vẫn dùng. Nay vẽ lại cho tử tế.[HIDE]
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Khiên tròn. Theo thứ tự thì 2 mẫu ở cột bên trái là mẫu khiên gỗ bọc da, và 2 mẫu còn lại là khiên bọc đồng ( hoặc, bằng đồng ). Họa tiết kiểu này chắc chỉ hợp với các unit cao cấp, sau này hẵng tính.[HIDE]
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Lính nghĩa vụ. Trang phục chính là áo giáp giấy ( phía trong ) và áo vải khoác bên ngoài. Đầu đội nón lá hoặc khăn quấn. Vũ khí là một ngọn giáo tre dài khoảng 3-4 m.[HIDE]
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Lính địa phương.
Cung thủ. Giáp trụ tương tự lính nghĩa vụ thôi, nhưng phối màu khác đi đôi chỗ. Bản concept chính thức sử dụng mũ tứ phương ( mẫu #1 ).[HIDE]
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Phóng tác :"D
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Bộ binh cầm giáo. Line infantry của quân đội Đại Việt, với giáp Lamellar và khiên gỗ hình thoi dài, trơn, không họa tiết.[HIDE]
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Lính câu liêm. Giáp phục tương tự như bộ binh cầm giáo.[HIDE]
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Bộ binh.[HIDE]
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[/spoil]Một số phác thảo gần đây. Vì nhiều lí do nên mình không muốn vẽ màu nữa...
Lính hỏa cầu. Gia binh. Vương hầu. Lí -Trần. Skirmisher.[HIDE][/HIDE]![]()
Phiên bản với hộ tâm phiến:[HIDE]
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Nỏ thủ. Vương hầu. Nhầm lẫn về trang bị giáp phục giữa đơn vị này và lính hỏa cầu, đáng ra phải hoán đổi giữa 2 thứ giáp này với nhau.[HIDE]
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Hoa. Người dân tộc. Lao. Thổ cẩm. Chàm.
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Nhìn sơ qua thì hình như là land battle + map biển + model tàu bè phải không bác nhinhonhinho ?Dự là mod của ta sẽ có cả...thủy chiến với thuyền bè nữa
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