rock294
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- 18/11/04
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Hello Dear druid friends!!!
(Beware, this might come out as a whine thread)
Hey friends! I wanna discuss something that i feel is really needed, and i really hope that blizzard dev's have something REALLY juicy coming up for the druid class, i doubt it tho, but my fingers are crossed... Anyway, let's discuss the druid class in general!!
1. Druids... Are they really needed?
2. What do we bring to the table?
3. How good are we compared to other classes?
1/2/3. NO, we arent. I can only speak for myself and my own guild, We are the world leading PVE guild, i know what i speak of, hopefully
-How many druids Nihilum bring to BT / Mount hyjal raids?-
Here's the answer..... HALLELULJA.... 1... one... 1 .... uno ... ett.... We bring 1. The druid we bring is feral! not resto, not moonkin, not hybrid... but feral...
Ok, feral is the only way to go?
- Yes, It's a good spec and it gives a nice dmg boost to rogues and dps warriors, 1 out of 5 groups for a 25 man raid(Warlocks support MT group,best dps class and have healthstones,. You spec for tank AND dps at the same time and for some fights, like The lurker Below, it's really handy to have a tank AND a dps class on the same fight. Not all fights are like this tho. However, the feral tree does not need anymore attention, that spec is good.
"How many resto druids do you bring to raids?"
- I get this question a couple of times a day on IRC, and my answer is always....
- Sadly, none.
The following question which i do not usually answer is, "why not?"
However im gonna answer it now.
-Paladins,Shamans and priests are all superiour healers to the druid class. Druids have the slowest heals of all classes. we have the worst ae healing spell of all classes except the paladin (but the paladin direct heals makes up for this MORE than enough to be the most efficiant healer in the game), the shamans have COUNTLESS of group buffs enabled in the bags, they can with 1 spec be put with either MTgroup/dpsmeleegroup/dpscastergroup or healer group, what do druids bring to the table? 5crit to melee group for 41 talent points... or 41 for 5 crit to caster groups, or 100-150 healing to mt group, all specs require atleast 41 talents spent. Shamans get, WINDFURY(we dont need to discuss the melee dmg output that this increases, its REALLY good) Totem of wrath 101 spelldmg to the group(OK 41points spent for 5 crit or 0 talents spent for 101 spelldmg... hmmmmm.-.. hard choice...) Str totem, Grace of Air totem, Resistance totems.. the list keeps growing... and growing...
WHAT DO DRUIDS BRING!?
Ok resto first... NOTHING, ~125 healing to mt.. AJAHAHAHAH i dont even spec tree, its so shit i wanna cry. It decreases our movement speed and the bonuses you get are so shit, jesus.. lets just cry.. ok NEXT. MARK OF THE WILD, 14 to all stats 25 to all resistance(Which doenst stack with JACK shit) and BEHOLD................... 340 armor... OK OK, stop whining.. you can increase all the stats and armor/resistance's with 35% !!! OMG 35% for 5 ******* talent points.. ARE you kidding me blizz!? 14x1.35 is.... BEHOLD 18 stats... the reason im only counting stats is because the stats are really the only thing that matters. res/armor is useless. OK for 5 talent points you get for a rogue, 4 more agi 4 more str.. 8 attackpower.. 40 more hitpoints.. 60 more mana.. u see my point.. its crap. Our slow heals and the way Healing over time is designed.. we dont bring ANYTHING that any other class cant give, im sorry blizz, you have failed.
We have NO such thing as BoP (Blessing of Protection, Lay on Hands, Power Word: Shield) We have nature's swiftness. Dont get me wrong, its a great spell, but i can be used ONCE every 3 minutes. And, with the direction that Mount Hyjal and Black Temple as taken, We see less and less RAW maintank dmg, and more and more RAIDdmg taken. We see the raid take XXXX dmg, and you click your lifebloom or w/e and before it has ticked ONCE you see that flash of light heal the target back too full and your mana spent on HoT was wasted, it feels GREAT... JUST GREAT. everytime... our class is broken, its time to stand up and get the dev's to hear our oppinion!
LETS talk, lets exchange experiences, lets elaborate.... TALK TALK TALK, and they will hear us!
WHAT DO YOU THINK!?
(wont even mention moonkin, its BEYOND useless... you will never see a succesfull 25man raid with a moonkin in it.)
Im gonna say it again, BLIZZ you have failed. Druid class is now offically broken and useless. thank you for WASTING my 170+ days played on my druid, it was fun in BWL/AQ/NAX, but in TBC it has been a pain. Tigole, i sinceraly hope you read this and take action.
http://www.nihilum.eu/forum/raids-classes/8698-druids-look-here-we-times-need.html
(Beware, this might come out as a whine thread)
Hey friends! I wanna discuss something that i feel is really needed, and i really hope that blizzard dev's have something REALLY juicy coming up for the druid class, i doubt it tho, but my fingers are crossed... Anyway, let's discuss the druid class in general!!
1. Druids... Are they really needed?
2. What do we bring to the table?
3. How good are we compared to other classes?
1/2/3. NO, we arent. I can only speak for myself and my own guild, We are the world leading PVE guild, i know what i speak of, hopefully
-How many druids Nihilum bring to BT / Mount hyjal raids?-
Here's the answer..... HALLELULJA.... 1... one... 1 .... uno ... ett.... We bring 1. The druid we bring is feral! not resto, not moonkin, not hybrid... but feral...
Ok, feral is the only way to go?
- Yes, It's a good spec and it gives a nice dmg boost to rogues and dps warriors, 1 out of 5 groups for a 25 man raid(Warlocks support MT group,best dps class and have healthstones,. You spec for tank AND dps at the same time and for some fights, like The lurker Below, it's really handy to have a tank AND a dps class on the same fight. Not all fights are like this tho. However, the feral tree does not need anymore attention, that spec is good.
"How many resto druids do you bring to raids?"
- I get this question a couple of times a day on IRC, and my answer is always....
- Sadly, none.
The following question which i do not usually answer is, "why not?"
However im gonna answer it now.
-Paladins,Shamans and priests are all superiour healers to the druid class. Druids have the slowest heals of all classes. we have the worst ae healing spell of all classes except the paladin (but the paladin direct heals makes up for this MORE than enough to be the most efficiant healer in the game), the shamans have COUNTLESS of group buffs enabled in the bags, they can with 1 spec be put with either MTgroup/dpsmeleegroup/dpscastergroup or healer group, what do druids bring to the table? 5crit to melee group for 41 talent points... or 41 for 5 crit to caster groups, or 100-150 healing to mt group, all specs require atleast 41 talents spent. Shamans get, WINDFURY(we dont need to discuss the melee dmg output that this increases, its REALLY good) Totem of wrath 101 spelldmg to the group(OK 41points spent for 5 crit or 0 talents spent for 101 spelldmg... hmmmmm.-.. hard choice...) Str totem, Grace of Air totem, Resistance totems.. the list keeps growing... and growing...
WHAT DO DRUIDS BRING!?
Ok resto first... NOTHING, ~125 healing to mt.. AJAHAHAHAH i dont even spec tree, its so shit i wanna cry. It decreases our movement speed and the bonuses you get are so shit, jesus.. lets just cry.. ok NEXT. MARK OF THE WILD, 14 to all stats 25 to all resistance(Which doenst stack with JACK shit) and BEHOLD................... 340 armor... OK OK, stop whining.. you can increase all the stats and armor/resistance's with 35% !!! OMG 35% for 5 ******* talent points.. ARE you kidding me blizz!? 14x1.35 is.... BEHOLD 18 stats... the reason im only counting stats is because the stats are really the only thing that matters. res/armor is useless. OK for 5 talent points you get for a rogue, 4 more agi 4 more str.. 8 attackpower.. 40 more hitpoints.. 60 more mana.. u see my point.. its crap. Our slow heals and the way Healing over time is designed.. we dont bring ANYTHING that any other class cant give, im sorry blizz, you have failed.
We have NO such thing as BoP (Blessing of Protection, Lay on Hands, Power Word: Shield) We have nature's swiftness. Dont get me wrong, its a great spell, but i can be used ONCE every 3 minutes. And, with the direction that Mount Hyjal and Black Temple as taken, We see less and less RAW maintank dmg, and more and more RAIDdmg taken. We see the raid take XXXX dmg, and you click your lifebloom or w/e and before it has ticked ONCE you see that flash of light heal the target back too full and your mana spent on HoT was wasted, it feels GREAT... JUST GREAT. everytime... our class is broken, its time to stand up and get the dev's to hear our oppinion!
LETS talk, lets exchange experiences, lets elaborate.... TALK TALK TALK, and they will hear us!
WHAT DO YOU THINK!?
(wont even mention moonkin, its BEYOND useless... you will never see a succesfull 25man raid with a moonkin in it.)
Im gonna say it again, BLIZZ you have failed. Druid class is now offically broken and useless. thank you for WASTING my 170+ days played on my druid, it was fun in BWL/AQ/NAX, but in TBC it has been a pain. Tigole, i sinceraly hope you read this and take action.
http://www.nihilum.eu/forum/raids-classes/8698-druids-look-here-we-times-need.html
Priest không mang lại bất cứ thứ gì cho raid ngoài heal, tuy nhiên heal của priest không có 1 cái nào là best trong category của nó cả.
