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The Warrior of Light
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thấy mấy thằng bad guy nào vào phim cũng bị nerf skill thấy rõ
Thor: The Dark World (2013)
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Legend of Zelda
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Đây mới đúng là đạo diễn này. Ko những là đạo diễn mà còn kiêm đóng vai Loki luôn.
Dao xịn đâm rớt tàu bay ccc, giải thích là tàu bay cùi bắp bị đâm 1 phát nên rớt nghe còn dc. Cảnh sau bọn Elf bay vào thành phố, mỗi tàu ăn 1 phát đạn là rớt, chỉ 2 cái bay vào dc gần tháp chính, thế mà ăn hên thế nào, con tàu đâm dc vô tháp lại là tàu chứa boss
.Chắc đạo diễn sẽ giải thích là tàu chứa boss luôn đi sau cùng nên tránh dc cái shield, và do thằng giỏi lái nên tránh dc hết mớ đạn canon
Tình cờ làm sao Loki lại biết dc con đường bí mật đến hành tinh bọn Elf.
Biết được Malekith đã lấy lại dc Aether mà bọn Asgard vẫn bình chân như vại trong lúc nó bắt đầu xâm thực cả vũ trụ, rồi lại phải nhờ đến công nghệ của con người mới thắng.
Vãi cả logic. Cứ giải thích đây là logic của 1 phim mang tính giải trí là chính để nghe cho có lý còn được, ai mượn?
Bố nói thẳng là phim này plothole đầy ra đấy, đụng chạm đến từ đường nhà đạo diễn ah?
fanomu
Mario & Luigi
- 20/1/04
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Đây mới đúng là đạo diễn này. Ko những là đạo diễn mà còn kiêm đóng vai Loki luôn.
Dao xịn đâm rớt tàu bay ccc, giải thích là tàu bay cùi bắp bị đâm 1 phát nên rớt nghe còn dc. Cảnh sau bọn Elf bay vào thành phố, mỗi tàu ăn 1 phát đạn là rớt, chỉ 2 cái bay vào dc gần tháp chính, thế mà ăn hên thế nào, con tàu đâm dc vô tháp lại là tàu chứa boss
Chắc đạo diễn sẽ giải thích là tàu chứa boss luôn đi sau cùng nên tránh dc cái shield, và do thằng giỏi lái nên tránh dc hết mớ đạn canon
Tình cờ làm sao Loki lại biết dc con đường bí mật đến hành tinh bọn Elf.
Biết được Malekith đã lấy lại dc Aether mà bọn Asgard vẫn bình chân như vại trong lúc nó bắt đầu xâm thực cả vũ trụ, rồi lại phải nhờ đến công nghệ của con người mới thắng.
Vãi cả logic. Cứ giải thích đây là logic của 1 phim mang tính giải trí là chính để nghe cho có lý còn được, ai mượn?
Bố nói thẳng là phim này plothole đầy ra đấy, đụng chạm đến từ đường nhà đạo diễn ah?
Dao xịn đâm nổ tàu bay thì giải thích thì nó quăng dao vô phá cái reactor, nổ nguyên chiếc thôi
? Coi StarWars nguyên cái Death Star to đùng bắn 1 phát vào reactor còn banh mà 
Còn tàu bay vô được tới nơi là tàu của boss thì dĩ nhiên cái này quan trọng phải bay sau cùng chứ
Có gì mà plot hole ở đây???Chỉ bảo là có mình Loki biết được những path khác ra vào 9 realms, mà thằng này đi lang thang phá phách lâu lắc rồi nên biết thì có gì lạ ah
Có gì hot???Ai ở Asgard biết được Malekith lấy được Aether? Ngoài Odin được thằng Loki đi báo về nhiều khả năng bị xiên rồi thì còn ai? Chưa kể thằng Loki về đó nó thao túng hết nó không muốn cho ai biết cũng là chuyện dễ như trở bàn tay với nó.
Plot thì chả phải quá logic những mà bắt bẻ mấy lỗi này thì nhảm
Bởi vì nó là phim super heroes
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Khoan hồng
- 19/2/06
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thôi đừng thắc mắc nữa phim giải trí mà soi plothole lấy để
phim giải trí mà soi plothole lấy để
fanomu
Mario & Luigi
- 20/1/04
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thôi đừng thắc mắc nữa
Thắc mắc nhiều cái giống như là sao thằng phản diện cầm AK tiểu liên bắn cả trăm viên ko trúng viên nào rồi bị thằng nhân vật chính cầm dao quăng chết vậy -_-
- 25/1/09
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phim thì chưa có hd nên mình chẳng biết chém gì. nhưng mà độ này thấy hơi bức xúc nhiều đứa cuồng thằng thor và cái búa quá. có thằng còn nói phật cũng không nhấc được cái búa thor 
rồi phật cũng không thể mạnh bằng thằng TOAA 
theo các bạn thì sao
rồi phật cũng không thể mạnh bằng thằng TOAA theo các bạn thì sao
fanomu
Mario & Luigi
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july3rd
Legend of Zelda
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Mình xem film giải trí chẳng vạch lá tìm sâu làm chi cho mệt đầu óc, chẳng qua ngứa mắt cái thể loại đạo diễn đạo đức giả Tuấn hớp hay thích lên mặt dạy đời người khác.
- 18/1/11
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Có hiểu đạo đức giả là gì ko thế...ừ ko thích vạch lá tìm sâu những cũng toàn bới ra 1 đống chi tiết để bắt bẻ trong khi những chi tiết đó chẳng có ai thấy phi lí hay plothole chỗ nào...plothole chỗ nào kể coi, THÁCH !!!
fanomu
Mario & Luigi
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Hình như Mag điều khiển thì giống như một cái búa bt thôi chử ko có sức mạnh thì phải
- 3/1/09
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có tên nào hắn ngồi viết cả đống đây nè, đầy đủ mà đọc thấy giọng cũng hay phết
[SPOIL]Minor Plot hole: To show how dimwitted the Asgardians are – follow closely this example:
Imagine you are one of the dozens of security check-points in a maximum security prison in your country – one of the criminals that appear in front of you has armor and a wooden mask that clearly looks alien to you. What would you do?
(a) Remove all his armor because it’s a goddamn prison and not a 80 AD Roman Coliseum
(b) Identify the future inmate to confirm his file & sentence
(c) Scan the inmate for potential hidden weapons
In any real life-scenario – all these steps would be followed. But not in this movie, the gods of Asgard believed to be above humans in almost every way let an alien from a race taught to be extinct enter their prison in full armor without identifying him. They got quantum mechanics mumbo-jumbo and yet failed to identify Algrim, the only black Dark Elf in the universe who was also trying really hard to conceal his identity by showing-up in a full Dark Elf gear that was not seen by any Asgardian eye for the last 5000 years! How was it possible for this guy to get in prison with any element of surprise?
Minor Plot hole: For about 5000 years, the Asgardian military technology did not evolve in the slightest. Their Dark-Elf counterparts who were in suspended animation for exactly 5000 years still have the upper-hand with a ridiculous concept called ‘’long-range weapons’’ where they can shoot Asgard foot soldiers with laser guns and dimension-ripping grenades while Asgard tried to defend itself with daggers and shields. Funny thing though, Asgard has long-range weapons on their ships – but Dark Elves ONLY uses knives-shaped ships for close-quarter-combat in the sky. Wtf?
Major Plot hole: If Frigga can make illusions of everyone, why didn’t she make an extra illusion of herself to complement the illusion of Natalie Portman she made to protect her from Malekith? Clearly she had the mental capacity to do it (similar to her son Loki) – why was the logical capacity lacking? Oh right, she had to die so the movie could unite the brothers in a vengeance plan!
Major Plot hole: We don’t know much about super one-dimensional Malekith – but we know one thing: he loooves his Aether! After 5000 years of deep sleep in a nightmare BDSM machine, Malekith wakes-up the minute the Aether finds a living host and he seems to know exactly where to find it even if it is hundreds of galaxies away. But somehow, when he is finally right beside the source of Aether (that he can sense from billions of kilometers away), he can’t feel that the Jane in front of him is a decoy illusion created by hot-mama Frigga. How ? On every other occasion in the film – Malekith knows exactly where Jane Foster is….why not now? Perhaps for a cinematic surprise that is ultimately nonsensical.
Major Plot hole: Why did no one from Asgard help Thor while he was fighting Malekith in London? They have a machine that can teleport people right beside him. The World was on the edge of destruction – clearly they could have sent a few hundred soldiers or EVERYONE THAT IS ALIVE IN THEIR KINGDOM to save the Universe. It seems they misjudged the scope of their mess – if Thor fails: everyone dies. This is clearly the highest stakes the whole Marvel Universe has ever faced and you would think his good friends like Iron Man and Captain America and all the others who clearly had less important problems than saving the whole complete Universe from being plunged into Darkness by one metro-sexual Elf in Europe would show-up to help. Clearly everything else, by definition, is of less importance.
Major Plot hole: It made no sense for Thor to go after Malekith. He overestimated the force of his enemy and he underestimated the potential cost of his failure. The contrast is so evident that no one would ever dare try it – except our main character of course. Let’s look at it:
Enemy’s forces: One dude with a single ship of Elf soldiers where most of them were killed in the assault on Asgard. Their assault was originally successful because it was a surprise attack. This is no longer possible. Furthermore – if another attack occurs – Malekith won’t be able to send a lot of sword-ships since most of them are already destroyed.
Potential cost of failure: If Thor fails to destroy the Aether once it is extracted from his one-dimensional love interest – Malekith starts his Armageddon and everything that is alive in the Universe dies.
Thor’s plan: Destroy the Aether with his hammer – even though he has no tangible way to know if he actually as the strength to destroy it (considering his grand-father failed) and plans to use his brother who betrays more than he breaths.
This is a rather simple risk-analysis situation. Yes, it is possible Jane (his love) might die if she keeps the Aether in her veins for too long – but risking the whole Universe for a plan that is doomed to fail is simply preposterous. In fact the whole conflict is not resolved by Thor – but by naked Dr. Selvig who somehow managed to beat all other scientists in the Universe to create a way to manipulate portals to dismember the Aether-infused Malekith. If that doctor didn’t SOMEHOW create this magic science thingy – Thor would have lost and everybody else. You think this is stupid? Wait until what comes next!
Super Plot hole: Throughout the whole movie we see Malekith desperately trying to find the Aether and absorb it so he can destroy all the lights in the Universe. Ok, funny thing though that in the prologue where he is attacked by Asgard soldiers and Odin’s father, he is actually right beside the Aether. He only needed to absorb it and the Universe was done for.
So…why didn’t he?
He instead chose to look at the dangerous battlefield where his forces were sacrificing their lives to protect him from soldiers with the technology to teleport anywhere on the field – let’s say right between him and the Aether for example. Then this likely scenario happens….he loses the Aether and ultimately the war. But he didn’t have to lose – if he absorbed the Aether simply one moment before he finally decided it was perhaps maybe a good time to get out of his vegetative state and do something – he would have won. The movie was over 2 minutes after it started and the screenwriter didn’t notice.
Plot contrivance: So the Universe’s convergence that happens once every 5000 years happens (1) in 2013. (2) Dimensional portals show-up in London a few kilometers away from Jane Foster, (3) the kids who first find the portals in an abandoned factory never get sucked into it while Jane does hours later, (4) of all the places in the Universe where this particular dimensional portal could lead her – Jane is transported right beside the Aether. If any of these 4 elements was not present- Jane would not have become the Aether’s host. I don’t think you will find a bigger contrivance in any movie in the next few years.
Plot contrivance: When an alien spacecraft invades London – the best the British government can come up with is a pair of fighter jets – escorted by absolutely zero police officers and federal agents. It’s almost as if London has barely any pedestrians in its street – similar to a Disney movie set for example!
Plot contrivance: By structural engineering definition, pillars are supposed to transmit the weight of what is above them to what is below. This is probably different in the ‘’made-that-up’’ kingdom of Asgard where a single ship destroys 80% of all pillars in a room that has nothing but pillars and yet nothing happens.
Plot contrivance: If 4 enemy spaceships are sent to attack Asgard’s palace – you can be sure that if only one spaceship makes it to its destination it will be the ship with the main leader in it – even if it is the same ship with the same kind of pilots.
Retroactive continuity: In this movie, Loki demonstrates the ability to make himself look like other people, make other people look like other people, and even change the look of his entire prison cell in one scene. This is an ability that he has not only never used in Thor or The Avengers, but also an ability that would have been incredibly useful in a past number of situations, such as making himself look like an avengers (which he even did in this film). If it's something he gained suddenly, when did he gain it? He goes straight from being arrested to put in his cell, how did he find the time to learn this new and very useful power?
Unaddressed Issue: Dimensional portals are said to create fluctuations in gravity – and by that they mean fluctuations in the gravity exerted on cars and nothing else. Twice in the movie do we see someone turn a truck upside down because of these ‘’fluctuations’’ and nothing else is ever affected by it. What is so special about these cars? And can we get the prescriptions drugs the screenwriter is having?[/SPOIL]
[SPOIL]Minor Plot hole: To show how dimwitted the Asgardians are – follow closely this example:
Imagine you are one of the dozens of security check-points in a maximum security prison in your country – one of the criminals that appear in front of you has armor and a wooden mask that clearly looks alien to you. What would you do?
(a) Remove all his armor because it’s a goddamn prison and not a 80 AD Roman Coliseum
(b) Identify the future inmate to confirm his file & sentence
(c) Scan the inmate for potential hidden weapons
In any real life-scenario – all these steps would be followed. But not in this movie, the gods of Asgard believed to be above humans in almost every way let an alien from a race taught to be extinct enter their prison in full armor without identifying him. They got quantum mechanics mumbo-jumbo and yet failed to identify Algrim, the only black Dark Elf in the universe who was also trying really hard to conceal his identity by showing-up in a full Dark Elf gear that was not seen by any Asgardian eye for the last 5000 years! How was it possible for this guy to get in prison with any element of surprise?
Minor Plot hole: For about 5000 years, the Asgardian military technology did not evolve in the slightest. Their Dark-Elf counterparts who were in suspended animation for exactly 5000 years still have the upper-hand with a ridiculous concept called ‘’long-range weapons’’ where they can shoot Asgard foot soldiers with laser guns and dimension-ripping grenades while Asgard tried to defend itself with daggers and shields. Funny thing though, Asgard has long-range weapons on their ships – but Dark Elves ONLY uses knives-shaped ships for close-quarter-combat in the sky. Wtf?
Major Plot hole: If Frigga can make illusions of everyone, why didn’t she make an extra illusion of herself to complement the illusion of Natalie Portman she made to protect her from Malekith? Clearly she had the mental capacity to do it (similar to her son Loki) – why was the logical capacity lacking? Oh right, she had to die so the movie could unite the brothers in a vengeance plan!
Major Plot hole: We don’t know much about super one-dimensional Malekith – but we know one thing: he loooves his Aether! After 5000 years of deep sleep in a nightmare BDSM machine, Malekith wakes-up the minute the Aether finds a living host and he seems to know exactly where to find it even if it is hundreds of galaxies away. But somehow, when he is finally right beside the source of Aether (that he can sense from billions of kilometers away), he can’t feel that the Jane in front of him is a decoy illusion created by hot-mama Frigga. How ? On every other occasion in the film – Malekith knows exactly where Jane Foster is….why not now? Perhaps for a cinematic surprise that is ultimately nonsensical.
Major Plot hole: Why did no one from Asgard help Thor while he was fighting Malekith in London? They have a machine that can teleport people right beside him. The World was on the edge of destruction – clearly they could have sent a few hundred soldiers or EVERYONE THAT IS ALIVE IN THEIR KINGDOM to save the Universe. It seems they misjudged the scope of their mess – if Thor fails: everyone dies. This is clearly the highest stakes the whole Marvel Universe has ever faced and you would think his good friends like Iron Man and Captain America and all the others who clearly had less important problems than saving the whole complete Universe from being plunged into Darkness by one metro-sexual Elf in Europe would show-up to help. Clearly everything else, by definition, is of less importance.
Major Plot hole: It made no sense for Thor to go after Malekith. He overestimated the force of his enemy and he underestimated the potential cost of his failure. The contrast is so evident that no one would ever dare try it – except our main character of course. Let’s look at it:
Enemy’s forces: One dude with a single ship of Elf soldiers where most of them were killed in the assault on Asgard. Their assault was originally successful because it was a surprise attack. This is no longer possible. Furthermore – if another attack occurs – Malekith won’t be able to send a lot of sword-ships since most of them are already destroyed.
Potential cost of failure: If Thor fails to destroy the Aether once it is extracted from his one-dimensional love interest – Malekith starts his Armageddon and everything that is alive in the Universe dies.
Thor’s plan: Destroy the Aether with his hammer – even though he has no tangible way to know if he actually as the strength to destroy it (considering his grand-father failed) and plans to use his brother who betrays more than he breaths.
This is a rather simple risk-analysis situation. Yes, it is possible Jane (his love) might die if she keeps the Aether in her veins for too long – but risking the whole Universe for a plan that is doomed to fail is simply preposterous. In fact the whole conflict is not resolved by Thor – but by naked Dr. Selvig who somehow managed to beat all other scientists in the Universe to create a way to manipulate portals to dismember the Aether-infused Malekith. If that doctor didn’t SOMEHOW create this magic science thingy – Thor would have lost and everybody else. You think this is stupid? Wait until what comes next!
Super Plot hole: Throughout the whole movie we see Malekith desperately trying to find the Aether and absorb it so he can destroy all the lights in the Universe. Ok, funny thing though that in the prologue where he is attacked by Asgard soldiers and Odin’s father, he is actually right beside the Aether. He only needed to absorb it and the Universe was done for.
So…why didn’t he?
He instead chose to look at the dangerous battlefield where his forces were sacrificing their lives to protect him from soldiers with the technology to teleport anywhere on the field – let’s say right between him and the Aether for example. Then this likely scenario happens….he loses the Aether and ultimately the war. But he didn’t have to lose – if he absorbed the Aether simply one moment before he finally decided it was perhaps maybe a good time to get out of his vegetative state and do something – he would have won. The movie was over 2 minutes after it started and the screenwriter didn’t notice.
Plot contrivance: So the Universe’s convergence that happens once every 5000 years happens (1) in 2013. (2) Dimensional portals show-up in London a few kilometers away from Jane Foster, (3) the kids who first find the portals in an abandoned factory never get sucked into it while Jane does hours later, (4) of all the places in the Universe where this particular dimensional portal could lead her – Jane is transported right beside the Aether. If any of these 4 elements was not present- Jane would not have become the Aether’s host. I don’t think you will find a bigger contrivance in any movie in the next few years.
Plot contrivance: When an alien spacecraft invades London – the best the British government can come up with is a pair of fighter jets – escorted by absolutely zero police officers and federal agents. It’s almost as if London has barely any pedestrians in its street – similar to a Disney movie set for example!
Plot contrivance: By structural engineering definition, pillars are supposed to transmit the weight of what is above them to what is below. This is probably different in the ‘’made-that-up’’ kingdom of Asgard where a single ship destroys 80% of all pillars in a room that has nothing but pillars and yet nothing happens.
Plot contrivance: If 4 enemy spaceships are sent to attack Asgard’s palace – you can be sure that if only one spaceship makes it to its destination it will be the ship with the main leader in it – even if it is the same ship with the same kind of pilots.
Retroactive continuity: In this movie, Loki demonstrates the ability to make himself look like other people, make other people look like other people, and even change the look of his entire prison cell in one scene. This is an ability that he has not only never used in Thor or The Avengers, but also an ability that would have been incredibly useful in a past number of situations, such as making himself look like an avengers (which he even did in this film). If it's something he gained suddenly, when did he gain it? He goes straight from being arrested to put in his cell, how did he find the time to learn this new and very useful power?
Unaddressed Issue: Dimensional portals are said to create fluctuations in gravity – and by that they mean fluctuations in the gravity exerted on cars and nothing else. Twice in the movie do we see someone turn a truck upside down because of these ‘’fluctuations’’ and nothing else is ever affected by it. What is so special about these cars? And can we get the prescriptions drugs the screenwriter is having?[/SPOIL]
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xem Cinema Sins Thỏ 1 plothole cũng đầy chứ kém gì
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Từ phần 1 đã thấy là dan Asgard đi sang các realm khác cũng thở bình thường thì chắc 9 realm này ko khác nhau lắm về khí hậu, cùng xoay quanh cây sự sống mà...
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Có cái đoạn anh thor tóm cái búa đang bay thế là bay vèo cm nó luônLà cái búa bay, Thor nó nắm vào thôi.
Trong phim có đoạn cái búa bay ra, Thor rủ áo choàng, nhảy xuống lan can chụp rồi bay đi nhìn ảo vcc.
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