World of Tanks US server đã Released Thảo luận Ver 3

[nzurj]

mấy ông trong GVN sao làm giá cao thế nhỉ , pm hỏi chuyện hoài mà chả ông nào thèm trả lời , thấy mà ghét .......

 

[GP.Onizuka]

Anh em nói chuyện vui vẻ bt mà

 

[vietanh797]

mấy ông trong GVN sao làm giá cao thế nhỉ , pm hỏi chuyện hoài mà chả ông nào thèm trả lời , thấy mà ghét .......

xin vào clan không đúng ng
xin vào phai hoi chủ clan chứ hỏi phó thường dân thì như không

btw up 6.4.0 là Tiger 1 imba như T29 ngay

 

[zSand_Kingz]

hơ hơ , thế IS hẻm đc buff ah, thế lần này mình mà lên IS là thọt rồi , đành cày SU85 trước vậy

 

[congaimoilon]

Is cần buff gì nữa ông, con đấy bắn khá tốt rồi, Is thấy mỗi điểm yếu là dễ die crew và cây gun stock 85mm với cây 122 đời đầu rất là thần thánh thôi

 

[GP.Onizuka]

KV-3 buff lên không biết trâu cỡ nào, hy vọng là cho nó chút engine và nòng 122 giảm $ đạn =.=!

 

[gr4ve_st0ne]

tính ra lên 0.6.4, con T32 bị nerf hơi bị nhiều, chủ yếu là tại cây súng:

IX 122 mm BL-9 - IS-3 Stats
Dmg: 390
Pen: 225
RoF: 5.17

IX 10.5 cm KwK 46 L/68 - King Tiger Stats
Dmg: 320
Pen: 225(mm)
RoF: 6

IX 105 mm Gun T5E1 - T32 Stats
Dmg: 320
Pen: 198(mm)
RoF: 6.32

đó là chưa kể accuracy kém hơn 2 thằng kia + giáp giấy ai cũng biết

ai chơi T32 chắc cũng biết pen của cây 105mm tính ra là thấp cho 1 con tank tier 8, T29 thì chỉ số cây này ổn, giờ nó còn nerf dam nữa, càng lúc càng thấy heavy US vô dụng hơn =.=

 

[Ryuna]

giết = đó mạng mà được có 24k cre chắc toàn last hit

trừ mấy con cực kỳ bá đạo dạng như KV 107 top tier ra còn lại thì những thằng ăn nhiều kill toàn là ăn lh chứ tuổi gì solo lại từng thằng
nhất là con 3601 này lại là med, cũng thuộc dạng hay hỏng hóc

:) giờ mới nhận ra tổng số dame của mình có số khá đẹp (399 399)
bác Ryuna may tay nhỉ, hit 13, chắc là mỗi thằng 1 hit, riêng thằng M6 phải đến 5

ko, em M6 50% ăn 2 hit đã bay rồi, căn bản là em ý giáp giấy quá, mình AA bắn 2 phát pen cả 2, mình và 1 con 3601 nữa 2 thằng đi chung với nhau ra đảo, nấp ở mô đất vừa bắn lên hill vừa bắn ra base chúng nó, con Jpz bị mình bắn trước, thằng 3601 bắn sau có điều phát của mình bắn nó cháy nên mình ăn
có em KV-3 là mình bắn 3 phát thì 2 phát ko pen, lúc bắn phát cuối em ý còn 18%, AA lên bắn thế nào lại pen
trận này cả team chúng nó kéo lên hill (chắc cậy có heavy), bên mình cắm thủ chỉ có mỗi 2 con 3601 đi theo đường đảo là gặp ít kháng cự nhất, đến cuối trận chỉ còn mình xông lên base nó (thằng kia còn 18%, mình còn > 30%) nên ăn được con Hetzer với 2 con arty

 

[Kasnatos]

Tính ra con T32 vẫn còn lời hơn KT. Con T32 muốn lên gun thì chỉ mất 44k exp, IS 3 phải nâng cây 122 D25 rồi mới qua BL9,nhưng thường thì cây 122 ai cũng up từ thời IS rồi.chỉ có 1 mình KT bắt buộc mất 63k mới up đc gun thôi==> đè tank Ger rõ ràng

 

[gr4ve_st0ne]

T32 ko có gun để mà cày ấy chứ, đem nguyên dàn từ T29 lên trừ xích với turret

 

[congaimoilon]

T32 đúng là gun như vậy thì khá kém so với tier8, nhưng bù lại cái turret củ bựa của nó, T32 mà hull down đc hoặc áp sát thì có mà pen = niềm tin, mình từng áp sát 704 và đc ăn 2 hit vào mặt mà ko hề mất tí hp nào và khi áp sát thì cái turret sẽ che đc cái hull của nó, ko như T34, áp sát mà cái hull vẫn lộ 1 khoảng. Tuy nhiên giảm dam như vậy thì đúng là bất lợi quá, khi mà T34 vẫn phải cầm cái 105 này chiến đấu với các thể loại 4502, Is4 hoặc thậm chí Maus

 

[unreal2005]

lúc còn CB tớ còn dùng T32 chặn đầu Maus với 704 mà, tuy không bắn được, mà cũng không bị bắn, tạo điều kiện cho đồng đội tiến lên. tuy nhiên lắm lúc bị bỏ rơi, chúng nó toàn ngồi xa snipe để MT lên rỉa bay xe :(
trong 3 cái turet (T29, T34, T30) theo các bác cái nào đẹp ;D

 

[nhantruyenky]

^^
"lol" là gì
"btw" là gì

 

[congaimoilon]

T29 ngoài cái turret 2 ra thì khác chứ cái stock với T34 T30 là 1 mà, chỉ # nhau 1 chút về kích thước thôi, chứ chi tiết thì y hệt, thấy mỗi turret T32 là đẹp. Hỏi thêm cái Hitbox là gì thế mấy ông ? thấy trong patch 6.4 có đề cập, có phải cái đó là module trên xe ko ? (engine, súng, track, fuel tank.....)

 

[unreal2005]

:) vậy T30 cắm turret 2 của T29 theo mọi người xấu hay đẹp
hitbox chắc đúng là mấy cái module và vị trí crew rồi, hitbox càng lớn, càng nằm ở những vị trí dễ trúng đạn thì dễ bị critical và hư module, chết crew.

lol = laugh out lound : cười phá lên
btw= by the way : nhân tiện
lmao= laugh my ass out

 

[congaimoilon]

tớ thấy gắn cái turret T32 là ok nhất, mà sao bọn Us ko lấy model của T32 là T30 thì đẹp hơn nhìu, và cũng đc thêm tí armor
@nhantruyenky: tặng ông cái web này http://www.internetslang.com/ vào đó có thể tìm đc nghĩa mấy từ viết tắt trên mạng của tụi nó

 

[unreal2005]

ờ đang hỏi liệu mọi người có thích cắm turret 2 của T29 lên T30 không đó mà
riêng cái turret của T32 tớ thấy quá nhỏ để crew hoạt động tốt, không thể chứa nhiều đạn cỡ 120mm trở lên (??!) nên bắt buỗc turret súng to hơn thì turret cũng phải to theo

 

[EMPshot]

Hai ngày hôm nay không chơi đc WoT ức chế thiệt. Nhấn Play từ cái launcher xong cái game hiện ra rồi tắt ngúm. Có pác nào bị tình trạng này ko? Chỉ giùm với

 

[The Iron Eagle]

truyện kể của 1 lính nga lái Sherman: http://english.iremember.ru/tankers/17-dmitriy-loza.html?start=1

- Dmitriy Fedorovich, on which American tanks did you fight?

- On Shermans. We called them "Emchas", from M4 [in Russian, em chetyrye]. Initially they had the short main gun, and later they began to arrive with the long gun and muzzle brake. On the front slope armor there was a travel lock for securing the barrel during road marches. The main gun was quite long. Overall, this was a good vehicle but, as with any tank, it had its pluses and minuses. When someone says to me that this was a bad tank, I respond, "Excuse me!" One cannot say that this was a bad tank. Bad as compared to what?

- Dmitriy Fedorovich, did you have just American tanks in your unit?

- Our 6th Guards Tank Army (yes, we had six of them) fought in Ukraine, Romania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Austria. We ended the war for us in Czechoslovakia. Then they rushed us to the Far East and we fought against Japan. I briefly remind you that the army consisted of two corps: 5th Guards Tank Stalingrad Corps on our own T-34s and 5th Mechanized Corps, in which I fought. For the first time this corps had British Matildas, Valentines, and Churchills.

- But the British tanks were not withdrawn from service, so they fought until they were gone. Wasn't there a period when your corps had a mixture of tanks, both American and British? Were there any problems associated with the presence of such a broad variety of vehicles from different countries? For example, with supply and maintenance?

- Well, there were always problems. In general, the Matilda was an unbelievably worthless tank! I will tell you about one of the Matilda's deficiencies that caused us a great deal of trouble. Some fool in the General Staff planned an operation and sent our corps to the area of Yelnya, Smolensk, and Roslavl. The terrain there was forested swamp. The Matilda had skirts along the sides. The tank was developed primarily for operations in the desert. These skirts worked well in the desert-the sand passed through the rectangular slots in them. But in the forested swamps of Russia the mud packed into the space between the tracks and these side skirts. The Matilda transmission had a servomechanism for ease of shifting. In our conditions this component was weak, constantly overheated, and then failed. This was fine for the British. By 1943 they had developed a replacement unit that could be installed simply by unscrewing four mounting bolts, pulling out the old unit, and installing the new unit. It did not always work this way for us. In my battalion we had Senior Sergeant (Starshina) Nesterov, a former kolkhoz tractor driver (Kolkhoz is sort of farm - Valeri), in the position of battalion mechanic. In general each of our tank companies had a mechanic and Nesterov was it for the battalion. At our corps level we had a representative (whose name I have forgotten) of the British firm that produced these tanks. At one time I had it written down, but when my tank was hit everything I had in it burned up -photographs, documents, and notebook. We were forbidden to keep notes at the front, but I did it on the sly. Anyway, this British representative constantly interfered with our efforts to repair separate components of the tank. He said, "This has a factory seal. You should not tinker with it!" We were supposed to take out a component and install a new one. Nesterov made a simple repair to all these transmissions. One time the British representative came up to Nesterov and asked him, "At which university did you study?" And Nesterov replied, "At the kolkhoz!"

The Sherman was light years better in this regard. Did you know that one of the designers of the Sherman was a Russian engineer named Timoshenko? He was some shirt tail relative of Marshal S. K. Timoshenko.

The Sherman had its weaknesses, the greatest of which was its high center of gravity. The tank frequently tipped over on its side, like a Matryoshka doll (a wooden stacking doll). But I am alive today thanks to this deficiency. We were fighting in Hungary in December 1944. I was leading the battalion and on a turn my driver-mechanic clipped a curb. My tank went over on its side. We were thrown around, of course, but we survived the experience. Meanwhile the other four of my tanks went ahead and drove into an ambush. They were all destroyed.

- Dmitriy Fedorovich, the Sherman had a rubber-coated metal track. Some contemporary authors point to this as a deficiency, since in combat the rubber might be set on fire. With the track thus stripped bare, the tank is disabled. What can you say in this regard?

- On the one hand this rubber-coated track was a big plus. In the first place, this track had a service life approximately twice that of steel track. I might be mistaken, but I believe that the service life of the T-34 track was 2500 kilometers. The service life of the Sherman track was in excess of 5000 kilometers. Secondly, The Sherman drove like a car on hard surfaces, and our T-34 made so much noise that only the devil knows how many kilometers away it could be heard. What was the bad side of the Sherman track? In my book, Commanding the Red Army's Sherman Tanks, there is a chapter entitled "Barefooted". There I wrote about an incident that occurred in August 1944 in Romania, during the Jassy-Kishinev Operation. The heat was fearsome, somewhere around 30° C. We had driven approximately 100 km along a highway in a single day. The rubber linings on our support rollers got so hot that the rubber separated and peeled off in long pieces. Our corps paused not far from Bucharest. The rubber was flying around, the rollers had begun to jam up, the noise was terrible, and in the end we had been stopped. This was immediately reported to Moscow. Was this some kind of joke, an entire corps had halted? To our surprise, they brought new support rollers to us quickly and we spent three days installing them. I still don't know where they found so many support rollers in such a short time. There was yet another minus of rubber track. Even on a slightly icy surface the tank slid around like a fat cow. When this happened we had to tie barbed wire around the track or make grousers out of chains or bolts, anything to give us traction. But this was with the first shipment of tanks. Having seen this, the American representative reported to his company and the next shipment of tanks was accompanied by additional track blocks with grousers and spikes. If I recall, there were up to seven blocks for each track, for a total of fourteen per tank. We carried them in our parts bin. In general the American representative worked efficiently. Any deficiency that he observed and reported was quickly and effectively corrected.

One more shortcoming of the Sherman was the construction of the driver's hatch. The hatch on the first shipment of Shermans was located in the roof of the hull and simply opened upward. Frequently the driver-mechanic opened it and raised his head in order to see better. There were several occasions when during the rotation of the turret the main gun struck this hatch and knocked it into the driver's head. We had this happen once or twice in my own unit. Later the Americans corrected this deficiency. Now the hatch rose up and simply moved to the side, like on modern tanks.

Still one great plus of the Sherman was in the charging of its batteries. On our T-34 it was necessary to run the engine, all 500 horsepower of it, in order to charge batteries. In the crew compartment of the Sherman was an auxiliary gasoline engine, small like a motorcycle's one. Start it up and it charged the batteries. This was a big deal to us!

For a long time after the war I sought an answer to one question. If a T-34 started burning, we tried to get as far away from it as possible, even though this was forbidden. The on-board ammunition exploded. For a brief period of time, perhaps six weeks, I fought on a T-34 around Smolensk. The commander of one of our companies was hit in his tank. The crew jumped out of the tank but were unable to run away from it because the Germans were pinning them down with machine gun fire. They lay there in the wheat field as the tank burned and blew up. By evening, when the battle had waned, we went to them. I found the company commander lying on the ground with a large piece of armor sticking out of his head. When a Sherman burned, the main gun ammunition did not explode. Why was this?

Such a case occurred once in Ukraine. Our tank was hit. We jumped out of it but the Germans were dropping mortar rounds around us. We lay under the tank as it burned. We laid there a long time with nowhere to go. The Germans were covering the empty field around the tank with machine gun and mortar fires. We lay there. The uniform on my back was beginning heating up from the burning tank. We thought we were finished! We would hear a big bang and it would all be over! A brother's grave! We heard many loud thumps coming from the turret. This was the armor-piercing rounds being blown out of their cases. Next the fire would reach the high explosive rounds and all hell would break loose! But nothing happened. Why not? Because our high explosive rounds detonated and the American rounds did not? In the end it was because the American ammunition had more refined explosives. Ours was some kind of component that increased the force of the explosion one and one-half times, at the same time increasing the risk of detonation of the ammunition.

- What kind of rounds did you carry in the tank?

- Armor-piercing and high explosive. There was nothing else. The ratio was approximately one-third HE and two-thirds AP.

- What would you like to say about the German Tiger?

- It was an extremely heavy vehicle. The Sherman could never defeat a Tiger with a frontal shot. We had to force the Tiger to expose its flank. If we were defending and the Germans were attacking, we had a special tactic. Two Shermans were designated for each Tiger. The first Sherman fired at the track and broke it. For a brief space of time the heavy vehicle still moved forward on one track, which caused it to turn. At this moment the second Sherman shot it in the side, trying to hit the fuel cell. This is how we did it. One German tank was defeated by two of ours, therefore the victory was credited to both crews. There is a story about this entitled "Hunting With Borzois" in my book.

- What did you consider the most dangerous opponent? A cannon? A tank? An airplane?

- They were all dangerous until the first round was fired. But in general, the antitank cannons were the most dangerous. They were very difficult to distinguish and defeat. The artillerymen dug them in so that their barrels literally were laying on the ground. You could see only several centimeters of their gun shield. The cannon fired. It was a good thing if it had a muzzle brake and dust was kicked up! But if it was winter or raining, what then?

- What were the actions of the crew of a tank damaged in combat?

- To save the tank, to attempt to repair it. If the crew lacked sufficient resources to repair the tank, they set up a defense around their tank. It was categorically forbidden to abandon a tank. I have already mentioned that we had a SMERSH officer in each battalion. God forbid that you abandon a tank! We had a few cases where before an attack a crewmember loosened the track on his tank. It didn't take much effort by the driver-mechanic to throw the loose track. But our SMERSH officer took note of this and rounded up the guilty parties. Of course, it was brazen cowardice!

 

[Moe~~~]

Hỏi thêm cái Hitbox là gì thế mấy ông ?

Là cái mà bắn vào thì nó sẽ gây dmg hoặc là phá hỏng module(Sau khi đã pen được)

Có một số trường hợp mà bắn nghe rõ crit hit mà không có dmg, hoặc ngồi camp bắn vào người nó mà đạn lại bay xuống đất... là do cái hit box có vấn đề.