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Em vẫn chưa tìm dc em điện hoặc cỏ thích hợp để chiến với Keldio @@.
Và cả con Dragonite Flying/Dragon nữa @@...
 
Không nhất thiết phải 2 type đó mới đánh được với Keldio :)
Bạn tham khảo thử trận này của mình :)

Mã:
Battle between Flux and [GVN]Hayama started!

Rule: Unrated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle

[GVN]Hayama sent out Jirachi!
Flux sent out Kerudio!

Start of turn 1
The foe's Kerudio used Dark Pulse!
Jirachi lost 211 HP! (61% of its health)

Jirachi used Iron Head!
The foe's Kerudio lost 71% of its health!

Start of turn 2
The foe's Zoroaaku used Dark Pulse!
Jirachi lost 130 HP! (38% of its health)
Jirachi fainted!

[GVN]Hayama sent out Ninetales!

Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays!

Start of turn 3
Flux called Zoroaaku back!
Flux sent out Kerudio!

Ninetales used Hypnosis!
The attack of Ninetales missed!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 4
Ninetales used Hypnosis!
The attack of Ninetales missed!

The foe's Kerudio used Aqua Tail!
It's super effective!
Ninetales lost 204 HP! (71% of its health)
The foe's Kerudio is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 5
Ninetales used Hypnosis!
The attack of Ninetales missed!

The foe's Kerudio used Aqua Tail!
The attack of the foe's Kerudio missed!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 6
Ninetales used Hypnosis!
The foe's Kerudio fell asleep!

The foe's Kerudio is fast asleep!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 7
Flux called Kerudio back!
Flux sent out Blissey!

Ninetales used Nasty Plot!
Ninetales's Sp. Att. sharply rose!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 8
Ninetales used Flamethrower!
A critical hit!
The foe's Blissey lost 78% of its health!

The foe's Blissey used Toxic!
Ninetales was poisoned!

The sunlight is strong!
Ninetales is hurt by poison!
The foe's Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 9
The foe's Blissey used Protect!
The foe's Blissey protected itself!

Ninetales used Flamethrower!
The foe's Blissey protected itself!

The sunlight is strong!
Ninetales is hurt by poison!
The foe's Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 10
Flux called Blissey back!
Flux sent out Hihidaruma!

Ninetales used Flamethrower!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Hihidaruma lost 90% of its health!

The sunlight is strong!
Ninetales is hurt by poison!
Ninetales fainted!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Venusaur!

Start of turn 11
[GVN]Hayama called Venusaur back!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Houndoom!

The foe's Hihidaruma used Fire Punch!
Houndoom's Flash Fire raised the power of its Fire-type moves!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 12
Flux called Hihidaruma back!
Flux sent out Kerudio!

Houndoom used Dark Pulse!
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
The foe's Kerudio lost 51% of its health!
The foe's Kerudio's Justice Heart raised its attack!
Houndoom is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 13
Houndoom used Flamethrower!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Kerudio lost 38% of its health!
The foe's Kerudio fainted!
Houndoom is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!
Flux sent out Hihidaruma!

Start of turn 14
Houndoom used Flamethrower!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Hihidaruma lost 9% of its health!
The foe's Hihidaruma fainted!
Houndoom is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!
Flux sent out Zoroaaku!

Start of turn 15
The foe's Zoroaaku used Focus Blast!
The attack of the foe's Zoroaaku missed!

Houndoom used Flamethrower!
The foe's Zoroaaku lost 28% of its health!
The foe's Zoroaaku fainted!
Houndoom is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!
[GVN]Hayama: nice
Flux sent out Blissey!

Start of turn 16
The foe's Blissey used Protect!
The foe's Blissey protected itself!

Houndoom used Flamethrower!
The foe's Blissey protected itself!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 17
Houndoom used Flamethrower!
The foe's Blissey lost 40% of its health!
The foe's Blissey fainted!
Houndoom is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!
Flux sent out Desukan!

Start of turn 18
Houndoom used Dark Pulse!
It's super effective!
The foe's Desukan lost 83% of its health!
Houndoom is hurt by its Life Orb!

The foe's Desukan used Will-O-Wisp!
The attack of the foe's Desukan missed!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Desukan restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 19
Houndoom used Flamethrower!
The foe's Desukan lost 23% of its health!
The foe's Desukan fainted!
Houndoom is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!
Flux sent out Venusaur!

Start of turn 20
Houndoom used Flamethrower!
It's super effective!
 
Ủa sao hết rùi vậy mà con keldio của bạn mình đánh rất mạnh 1 lần gần 50% máu của Wailord(Hydro Pump. It's not very effective)..
 
Vậy coi ra build theo kiểu sweeper rồi 8-}
Mà cũng còn phụ thuộc vào bạn build Wailord thế nào nữa. Chứ mình nghĩ con Keldio kiểu đấy, dùng Ninetales của mình activate Sunny weather xong, ném Clorophyl Venusaur ra, Solarbeam một phát là lụm hàng \m/
 
Vậy Dragonite thì ném Froslass ra dùng Blizzard dc ko vậy, mà hình như Froslass Speed thua Dragonite đúng ko @@ :((. Nó dùng Fire Blast là Froslass chết weo
 
=.="
Dragonite, dùng khối con có thể đánh được.
Đâu nhất thiết Froslass mới dùng được Blizzard, mà đâu nhất thiết Blizzard mới là Ice-typed move.
Tớ dùng Jirachi Iron Head flinching và Ice-punch cũng đập được Dragonite. Còn nếu nói sợ Fire Blast thì ném Starmie ra... Đủ kiểu để đánh. Đâu nhất thiết type khắc nhau mới đánh được :)
 
Em ko tin vào flinch dc. Nhiều trận vì chỉ 1 lần Flinch ko dc mà thua hết nguyên trận @@ :((
 
Bạn xem trận này của mình, về flinching :)
Mã:
http://forum.gamevn.com/showpost.php?p=17857133

Cách build rất đơn giản:
Grace Jirachi, max EV Speed + Attack. Speed benefit Nature.
Moveset:
Iron Head.
Zen Headbutt.
Thunder Punch/Ice Punch/Fire Punch.
Drain Punch.
 
Battle between Pokeman197 and MoonM started!

Tier: Gen5 OverUsed
Rule: Unrated

MoonM sent out Ninetales!
Pokeman197 sent out Gengar!
Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays!

Start of turn 1
The foe's Gengar used Shadow Ball!
Ninetales lost 168 HP! (58% of its health)

Ninetales used Fire Blast!
The foe's Gengar lost 99% of its health!
The foe's Gengar hung on using its focus sash!

The sunlight is strong!
Ninetales restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 2
MoonM called Ninetales back!
MoonM sent out Donphan!

The foe's Gengar used Shadow Ball!
Donphan lost 202 HP! (52% of its health)

The sunlight is strong!
Donphan restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 3
The foe's Gengar used Shadow Ball!
Donphan lost 206 HP! (53% of its health)
Donphan fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
MoonM sent out Venusaur!

Start of turn 4
Venusaur used Sludge Bomb!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Gengar lost 0% of its health!
The foe's Gengar fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
Pokeman197 sent out Metagross!

Start of turn 5
Venusaur used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Metagross lost 31% of its health!

The foe's Metagross used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around MoonM's team!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 6
MoonM called Venusaur back!
MoonM sent out Ninetales!
Pointed stones dug into Ninetales!

The foe's Metagross used Meteor Mash!
The attack of the foe's Metagross missed!

The sunlight is strong!
Ninetales restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 7
Pokeman197 called Metagross back!
Pokeman197 sent out Heatran!

The foe's Heatran is floating on a balloon!
Ninetales used Fire Blast!
The foe's Heatran's Flash Fire raised the power of its Fire-type moves!

The sunlight is strong!
Ninetales restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 8
Ninetales used SolarBeam!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Heatran lost 7% of its health!
The foe's Heatran's Balloon popped!

The foe's Heatran used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
Ninetales lost 99 HP! (34% of its health)
Ninetales fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
MoonM sent out Wailord!
Pointed stones dug into Wailord!

Start of turn 9
The foe's Heatran used Hidden Power!
It's super effective!
Wailord lost 312 HP! (62% of its health)

Wailord used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Heatran lost 92% of its health!
The foe's Heatran fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
Wailord restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Pokeman197 sent out Metagross!

Start of turn 10
The foe's Metagross used Meteor Mash!
It's not very effective...
Wailord lost 113 HP! (22% of its health)

Wailord used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Metagross lost 35% of its health!

The sunlight is strong!
Wailord restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 11
MoonM called Wailord back!
MoonM sent out Gallade!
Pointed stones dug into Gallade!

The foe's Metagross used Meteor Mash!
Gallade lost 304 HP! (90% of its health)

The sunlight is strong!
Gallade restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 12
The foe's Metagross used Bullet Punch!
Gallade lost 32 HP! (9% of its health)
Gallade fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
MoonM sent out Jirachi!
Pointed stones dug into Jirachi!

Start of turn 13
Jirachi used Iron Head!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Metagross lost 13% of its health!

The foe's Metagross flinched!

The sunlight is strong!
Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 14
Jirachi used Zen Headbutt!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Metagross lost 6% of its health!

The foe's Metagross used Meteor Mash!
It's not very effective...
Jirachi lost 99 HP! (28% of its health)
The foe's Metagross's Attack rose!

The sunlight is strong!
Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 15
Jirachi used Drain Punch!
The foe's Metagross lost 14% of its health!
The foe's Metagross had its energy drained!
The foe's Metagross fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Pokeman197 sent out Infernape!

Start of turn 16
MoonM called Jirachi back!
MoonM sent out Wailord!
Pointed stones dug into Wailord!

The foe's Infernape used Overheat!
It's not very effective...
Wailord lost 13 HP! (2% of its health)
The foe's Infernape's Sp. Att. sharply fell!
Wailord fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
MoonM sent out Venusaur!
Pointed stones dug into Venusaur!

Start of turn 17
Venusaur used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Infernape lost 60% of its health!

The foe's Infernape used Overheat!
The attack of the foe's Infernape missed!

The sunlight is strong!
Venusaur restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 18
Pokeman197 called Infernape back!
Pokeman197 sent out Shaymin!

Venusaur used Earthquake!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Shaymin lost 7% of its health!

The sunlight is strong!
Venusaur restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Shaymin restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 19
Venusaur used Sludge Bomb!
It's super effective!
The foe's Shaymin lost 61% of its health!

The foe's Shaymin used Hidden Power!
It's super effective!
Venusaur lost 186 HP! (61% of its health)

The sunlight is strong!
Venusaur restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Shaymin restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 20
Venusaur used Sludge Bomb!
It's super effective!
The foe's Shaymin lost 43% of its health!
The foe's Shaymin fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
Venusaur restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Pokeman197 sent out Infernape!

Start of turn 21
Venusaur used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Infernape lost 39% of its health!
The foe's Infernape fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
Venusaur restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Pokeman197 sent out Suicune!

Start of turn 22
Venusaur used SolarBeam!
It's super effective!
The foe's Suicune lost 91% of its health!

The foe's Suicune used Ice Beam!
It's super effective!
Venusaur lost 168 HP! (55% of its health)
Venusaur fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Suicune restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
MoonM sent out Jirachi!
Pointed stones dug into Jirachi!

Start of turn 23
Jirachi used Iron Head!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Suicune lost 14% of its health!
The foe's Suicune fainted!

MoonM won the battle!
MoonM: Nothing is impossible...
Pokeman197: GG!
Trận này nhờ cả vào venusaur nhờ cái DWA
 
^ Lần sau, bạn nên đặt log vào tag [code]Nội dung[/code] thay vì tag Quote nhé :)

Btw, Jirachi nên hạn chế sử dụng Zen Headbutt khi không cần thiết, thay vào đó là dùng Iron Head. Zen Headbutt tỉ lệ chỉ có 10% thôi, cộng thêm Grace và King's Rock cũng chưa chắc flinch thường xuyên :)
 
em sử dụng Zen Headbutt khi nào mà Iron Head bị not vẻy effective thui :D
Mà tại sao Suicune lại vào hàng OU :-/
 
Suicune là Special Wall đó :)
Nó tank thì cực ức chế! :>
 
Ý em là sao nó ko ở trong hàng ngũ Uber đấy
 
Vì nó chỉ làm wall tốt chứ không có moveset hoặc ability khá. :)

Smeargle sắp lên Uber rồi =))
 
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Chỉnh sửa cuối:
nên cho porygon Z lên Uber vì dame tởm X_X 1 hit KO lugia max spec def của mình vừa vào đầu game :-o Scizor sau đó ăn phát nữa cũng mất 80% dù là not very effective X_X

Cloyster set up lên 1 turn rồi cũng tởm ko kém X_X

\:D/ sub seeder thì mình thấy tốt nhất là venusaur vì ko có điểm yếu x4 như natorei

Machamp + Quick Claw = Uber :))
 
nên cho porygon Z lên Uber vì dame tởm X_X 1 hit KO lugia max spec def của mình vừa vào đầu game :-o Scizor sau đó ăn phát nữa cũng mất 80% dù là not very effective X_X

Cloyster set up lên 1 turn rồi cũng tởm ko kém X_X

\:D/ sub seeder thì mình thấy tốt nhất là venusaur vì ko có điểm yếu x4 như natorei

Machamp + Quick Claw = Uber :))

nói như vậy có lẽ slaking, regigias, tyranitar, gengar, chanderlure, scizor.... quăng lên uber hết à :-"
cloyster để nó set up 1 turn mà không đấnh cẩn thận thì dễ thua lắm ;))
machamp + quick claw = no left, no choice band, no life orb, no lum berry.... uber kiểu gì nhỉ ;))
sub seeder tốt nhất là shaymin-S =))
 
Cloyster set up 1 turn rồi ăn Mach Punch liên miên 8-}
Mình toàn chơi cái ngữ :(( Đánh với Breloom, turn đầu mình Sub, nó Shell Smarsh (vì sleep clause nên không chơi Spore được). Sau đó, nó đinh chơi Icicle Spear để :"> Nhưng với Mach Punch thì "không kịp nữa rồi" :">
 
nói như vậy có lẽ slaking, regigias, tyranitar, gengar, chanderlure, scizor.... quăng lên uber hết à :-"
cloyster để nó set up 1 turn mà không đấnh cẩn thận thì dễ thua lắm ;))
machamp + quick claw = no left, no choice band, no life orb, no lum berry.... uber kiểu gì nhỉ ;))
sub seeder tốt nhất là shaymin-S =))

shaymin vẫn bị dính toxik thành ra thua các sub khác gặp venusaur thì chỉ có mà bó tay thôi ;))

đố bạn tìm đc con nào chém hyperbeam khỏe như con porygon Z đấy :-ss
 
Porygon Z vừa có Special Attack cao (135 thì phải), vừa type Normal, nên lấy STAB của Hyperbeam.
Nhưng cái đấy thì tớ thấy người ta dùng Tri Attack nhiều hơn ;;) Khá đau đấy :>
 
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