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Thấy ko có 1 Topic nào chuyên bàn về các chiến thuật và Build team. Nên mở 1 topic cho các tềnh yêu bàn lựng nhé.
 
Chỉnh sửa cuối:
Trước đây cũng có 1 topic bàn luận về chiến thuật riêng là warstories những trận battle kinh điển cũng bàn về chiến thuật khi chơi shoody battle, hồi đó topic ấy khá phát triển trong 1 tháng, hy vọng topic này cũng thế
Hồi đó chơi team sandstorm thắng dark được đúng 1 lần, bỏ lâu rồi, chắc giờ quay lại quá
 
1 tháng từ khi ngươi xuất hiện ấy hả =))
Cái topic đó refresh đc 1 hay 2 lần gì đó rồi mới die thì phải 8->
Cứ để topic nay thử 1 tuần xem sao nếu sôi nổi thì sẽ để nó tiếp tục hoạt động :)
 
Kiểu này chắc Close wa' =)) .
 
hok nhớ tên skill @_@ bàn đc ko @_@
 
Mình nhớ có bạn nào đó khinh rẻ con Shedinja 2 lives duy nhất còn lại của mình, để cho nó Sword Dance 2 lần rồi Sweep bay nửa team cuối cùng 8->

Shedinja:
  • EV: 252 Attack/252 Speed.
  • Nature: + Speed - cái nào cũng được except Attack.
  • Held Item: Focus Sash
  • Moveset:
    • Confuse Ray/ Thunder Wave
    • Sword Dance
    • Sucker Punch
    • X-Scissor/...

Sướng nhé! \m/
Vấn đề là trong team phải có Spiker Sweeper hoặc Magic Mirror để chống Spikes các loại. 1 Rain Dancer hoặc Sunray Summoner để tránh Sand Stream và Snow Warning. Ok! \m/
 
Chỉnh sửa cuối:
Mình có con Blaziken không biết có ổn không nhưng ít ra cũng luộc được bé Shedinja của cha dd >:)
+EV: 252 ATK/252 SPD
+Nature: Jolly
+Ability: Speed Boots
+Held Item: Muscle Band
+Moveset:
Flare Blizt
Sky Uppercut
Earthquake
move cuối thì tùy bạn nhét move nào phù hợp cũng được

Tuy hơi cùi nhưng nếu để 3-4 lượt sau chắc cũng kha khá \m/
 
Move cuối là Protect \m/
Mà thấy người ta xài Brick Break chứ ít thấy Sky Uppercut \m/
Dù sao bị bạn ấy gặp Starmie của mình thì Flare Blitz... =))

Anyway, mới edit lại con Shed \m/
Thay X-Scissor thành Sunny Day =))
 
^
Ta chỉ hận là tại sao mình không build được một em Electrc hay grass =((
Có em mới đây.Kirikizan:
+EV 252 ATK/252 SP.DEF
+Nature: +Def/+Sp.Def,-Spd/Sp.Def
+Ability:Inter Focus/Competitive Spirit
+Held Item: Iron Ball
+Moveset:
Metal Burst
Night Slash
Shadow Claw
Poisson Jab/Sword Dance
Với em này thì move chủ yếu là Metal Burst.Đây là kiểu build ngon nhưng rất nguy hiểm.Nói thật với kiểu build này thì các trận mình thắng mới có 5/13 nên có chỗ nào thấy không ổn thì các tiền bối chỉ giúp
@DD: Có con này của ta thì Starmie chạy đằng trời >:)
 
Move cuối là Protect
Mà thấy người ta xài Brick Break chứ ít thấy Sky Uppercut
Brick Break/ Sky Uppercut đều chả mấy ai xài, đơn giản vì Hi Jump Kick mạnh hơn rất nhiều =))
Bỏ Earthquake đi vì nó ko giúp ích ji cho Ken cả. Moveset tốt nhất là :
- Flare Blitz/ Blaze Kick
- Hi Jump Kick
- Stond Edge / Baton Pass
- Protect / Sword Dance
+Moveset:
Metal Burst
Night Slash
Shadow Claw
Poisson Jab/Sword Dance
Bỏ Shadow Claw đi vì những ji SC làm dc Night Slash đều làm tốt hơn.
Starmie switch thì bạn làm ji =)) , muốn diệt gọn Star thì gắn Pursuit vào ;))
 
^
Nếu Starmie switch thì chả sao cả:-??.Đồng ý thay SC bằng Spycho Cut.Pursuit thì đã có Tyranita lo rồi :-j
 
Chiến thuật gì đây, các tình yêu?
Mã:
Battle between Tito RPS and [GVN]Hayama started!

Tier: Dream World
Variation: +16, -15
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause

[GVN]Hayama sent out Nattorei!
Tito RPS sent out Mahuida! (Tyranitar)
The foe's Mahuida's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!

Start of turn 1
The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
It's super effective!
Nattorei lost 276 HP! (78% of its health)
Nattorei's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Mahuida

Nattorei used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around Tito RPS's team!

The sandstorm rages!
Nattorei restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 2
The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
It's super effective!
Nattorei lost 98 HP! (27% of its health)
Nattorei's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Mahuida
Nattorei fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Aianto!

Start of turn 3
Aianto used Befriend!
The foe's Mahuida gained Truant!

The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
It's super effective!
Aianto lost 256 HP! (99% of its health)
Aianto hung on using its focus sash!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 4
[GVN]Hayama called Aianto back!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Dugtrio!

The foe's Mahuida is carelessly slacking off!

The sandstorm rages!
[GVN]Hayama: hurry, please

Start of turn 5
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!
[GVN]Hayama: ???
[GVN]Hayama: what the?
[GVN]Hayama: where are you???
Tito RPS: i can't switch?
[GVN]Hayama: sure
[GVN]Hayama: it has arena trap

Start of turn 6
Dugtrio used Claw Sharpen!
Dugtrio's Attack rose!
Dugtrio's Accuracy rose!

The foe's Mahuida is carelessly slacking off!

The sandstorm rages!
Tito RPS: oh, you're right

Start of turn 7
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!
[GVN]Hayama: that's how my Pokemon work

Start of turn 8
Dugtrio used Claw Sharpen!
Dugtrio's Attack rose!
Dugtrio's Accuracy rose!

The foe's Mahuida is carelessly slacking off!

The sandstorm rages!
[GVN]Hayama: just keep going
Teenage D is watching the battle.

Start of turn 9
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 10
Dugtrio used Claw Sharpen!
Dugtrio's Attack rose!
Dugtrio's Accuracy rose!

The foe's Mahuida is carelessly slacking off!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 11
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 12
Dugtrio used Claw Sharpen!
Dugtrio's Attack rose!
Dugtrio's Accuracy rose!

The foe's Mahuida is carelessly slacking off!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 13
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 14
Dugtrio used Claw Sharpen!
Dugtrio's Attack rose!
Dugtrio's Accuracy rose!

The foe's Mahuida is carelessly slacking off!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 15
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!
Teenage D stopped watching the battle.

Start of turn 16
Dugtrio used Claw Sharpen!
Dugtrio's Attack rose!
Dugtrio's Accuracy rose!

The foe's Mahuida is carelessly slacking off!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 17
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Mahuida used Fire Punch!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 18
Dugtrio used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Mahuida lost 75% of its health!
The foe's Mahuida fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Tito RPS sent out Bruce! (Gliscor)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Bruce!

Start of turn 19
Dugtrio used Sucker Punch!
The foe's Bruce lost 69% of its health!

The foe's Bruce used Ice Fang!
It's super effective!
Dugtrio lost 200 HP! (94% of its health)

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 20
Dugtrio used Sucker Punch!
The foe's Bruce lost 18% of its health!
The foe's Bruce fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Tito RPS sent out Sumerlee! (Aerodactyl)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Sumerlee!

The foe's Sumerlee is exerting its Pressure!

Start of turn 21
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Sumerlee used Headbutt!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!
Teenage D is watching the battle.

Start of turn 22
Dugtrio used Sucker Punch!
The foe's Sumerlee lost 75% of its health!
The foe's Sumerlee fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Teenage D stopped watching the battle.
Tito RPS sent out Googleyes! (Claydol)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Googleyes!

Start of turn 23
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Googleyes used Gyro Ball!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 24
Dugtrio used Sucker Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Googleyes lost 93% of its health!
The foe's Googleyes fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Tito RPS sent out El Rohou! (Rhyperior)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's El Rohou!

Start of turn 25
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's El Rohou used Stone Edge!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 26
Dugtrio used Sucker Punch!
The foe's El Rohou lost 44% of its health!
The foe's El Rohou used its Red Card on Dugtrio!
Breloom was dragged out!

The foe's El Rohou used Hammer Arm!
A critical hit!
Breloom lost 291 HP! (100% of its health)
The foe's El Rohou's Speed fell!
Breloom fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Starmie!

Start of turn 27
Starmie used Boil Over!
It's super effective!
The foe's El Rohou lost 48% of its health!
The foe's El Rohou fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Starmie is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Tito RPS sent out Ditto?! (Quagsire)
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Ditto?!

Start of turn 28
Starmie used Rain Dance!
It started to rain!

The foe's Ditto? used Earthquake!
Starmie lost 112 HP! (34% of its health)

Rain continues to fall!
Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Ditto? restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 29
Starmie used Boil Over!
The foe's Ditto?'s Water Absorb made the attack useless!

The foe's Ditto? used Earthquake!
A critical hit!
Starmie lost 222 HP! (68% of its health)

Rain continues to fall!
Starmie restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 30
Starmie used Recover!
Starmie regained health!

The foe's Ditto? used Earthquake!
A critical hit!
Starmie lost 192 HP! (59% of its health)
Starmie fainted!

Rain continues to fall!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Aianto!

Start of turn 31
Aianto used Befriend!
The foe's Ditto? gained Truant!

The foe's Ditto? used Stone Edge!
Aianto lost 1 HP! (0% of its health)
Aianto fainted!

Rain continues to fall!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Dugtrio!

Start of turn 32
Dugtrio used Claw Sharpen!
Dugtrio's Attack rose!
Dugtrio's Accuracy rose!

The foe's Ditto? is carelessly slacking off!

The rain stopped!

Start of turn 33
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Ditto? used Earthquake!
Dugtrio protected itself!

Start of turn 34
Dugtrio used Claw Sharpen!
Dugtrio's Attack rose!
Dugtrio's Accuracy rose!

The foe's Ditto? is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 35
Dugtrio used Protect!
Dugtrio protected itself!

The foe's Ditto? used Earthquake!
Dugtrio protected itself!

Start of turn 36
Dugtrio used Claw Sharpen!
Dugtrio's Attack rose!
Dugtrio's Accuracy rose!

The foe's Ditto? is carelessly slacking off!
Chưa hết ván nó đã chạy cong chân =))

Còn ván này ức chế hơn nữa :'>
Mã:
Battle between [GVN]Hayama and Chester started!

Rule: Unrated
Rule: Disallow Spects

Chester sent out Blaziken!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Nattorei!

Start of turn 1
The foe's Blaziken used Flare Blitz!
It's super effective!
Nattorei lost 352 HP! (100% of its health)
The foe's Blaziken is hit with recoil!
Nattorei's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Blaziken
Nattorei fainted!

[GVN]Hayama sent out Aianto!

Start of turn 2
Aianto used Befriend!
The foe's Blaziken gained Truant!

The foe's Blaziken used Earthquake!
Aianto lost 101 HP! (39% of its health)

Start of turn 3
[GVN]Hayama called Aianto back!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Shandera!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 4
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used Flare Blitz!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 5
Shandera used Calm Mind!
Shandera's Sp. Att. rose!
Shandera's Sp. Def. rose!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 6
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used Earthquake!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 7
Shandera used Calm Mind!
Shandera's Sp. Att. rose!
Shandera's Sp. Def. rose!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 8
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used Earthquake!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 9
Shandera used Calm Mind!
Shandera's Sp. Att. rose!
Shandera's Sp. Def. rose!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 10
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used Earthquake!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 11
Shandera used Calm Mind!
Shandera's Sp. Att. rose!
Shandera's Sp. Def. rose!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 12
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used ThunderPunch!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 13
Shandera used Calm Mind!
Shandera's Sp. Att. rose!
Shandera's Sp. Def. rose!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 14
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used Earthquake!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 15
Shandera used Calm Mind!
Shandera's Sp. Att. rose!
Shandera's Sp. Def. rose!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 16
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used Earthquake!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 17
Shandera used Acid Armor!
Shandera's Defense sharply rose!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 18
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used Earthquake!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 19
Shandera used Acid Armor!
Shandera's Defense sharply rose!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 20
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used Earthquake!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 21
Shandera used Acid Armor!
Shandera's Defense sharply rose!

The foe's Blaziken is carelessly slacking off!

Start of turn 22
Shandera used Protect!
Shandera protected itself!

The foe's Blaziken used Earthquake!
Shandera protected itself!

Start of turn 23
Shandera used Flamethrower!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Blaziken lost 49% of its health!
The foe's Blaziken fainted!

Chester sent out Swampert!

Start of turn 24
Shandera used Flamethrower!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Swampert lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Swampert fainted!

Chester sent out Rampardos!

The foe's Rampardos has Mold Breaker!

Start of turn 25
Shandera used Flamethrower!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Rampardos lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Rampardos fainted!

Chester sent out Meganium!

Start of turn 26
Shandera used Flamethrower!
It's super effective!
The foe's Meganium lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Meganium fainted!

Chester sent out Slaking!

Start of turn 27
Shandera used Flamethrower!
The foe's Slaking lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Slaking fainted!

[GVN]Hayama won the battle!
 
Chỉnh sửa cuối:
The foe's ....is carelessly slacking off.
cái này là thể loại gì vậy nhỉ :-??
 
Bạn ý cho con Aianto dùng move Befriend để làm đối phương dính ability Truant -> 2 lượt mới đánh được 1 lần.
 
Đang tính dùng 1 con Psy đang phân vân giữa Espeon và Metagross ?
Theo hướng nào thì ngon nhỉ ai chỉ cách build luôn nhé Trước giờ biết mỗi Sword Dance rùi Bullet Punch
 
Dùng Espeon đi \m/
Ta yêu cái Magic Mirror của nó! \m/
 
^
Thế cái magic mirror của nó có tác dụng gì vậy :-?
 
^
Phản hồi lại mấy move status , taunt, encore... đặc biệt nhất là cả Stealth Rock, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, nên gặp Epsy là khỏi set up Entry Hazard
 
Cái đấy có tác dụng ghê lắm áh!
Trừ những move tấn công ra, còn lại văng ngược về hết! Từ Sleep Powder, Spore, Spike các kiểu, Steath Rock, thậm chí là Toxic, Swagger, Thunder Wave, Leech Seed, blah blah... Có tác dụng tốt với Blissey (gặp Blissey mà Mean Lock dính 1 cái là tha hồ boost nhé, trừ khi nó có Toss =))). Gặp mấy con Nattorie làm lead thì cứ switch nó ra, đảm bảo Spike bay ngược vào mặt nó ngậm ngùi =))
 
^ Deoxys-D ôm Magic Coat xung fong cũng được mà 8->
Rate/Fix hộ :-? , team dream world đánh với tên dark-dragons lúc nãy :-"

Blaziken (M) - Focus Sash
Speed Boost - Jolly
252 Att / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Baton Pass
High Jump Kick
Protect
Swords Dance

Cloyster (M) - Life Orb
Skill Link - Lonely
252 Att / 252 Spe / 4 SpA
Icicle Spear
Rock Blast
Shell Break
Hydro Pump

Jaroda (M) - Life Orb
Perversity - Timid
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Substitute
Protect
Hidden Power Ground
Leaf Storm

Roopushin (M) - Leftovers
Guts - Adamant
252 HP / 252 Att / 4 Spe
Rock Slide
Drain Punch
Mach Punch
Payback

Shandera (M) - Leftovers
Shadow Tag - Timid
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Calm Mind
Flamethrower
Shadow Ball
Psychic

Ditto (M) - Leftovers
Eccentric - Timid
252 HP / 252 Spe / 4 Att
Transform

Cho gà múa kiếm, protect dăm ba lượt để tăng speed xong nhảy cho roopushin hay cloyster sweep (lấy cả atk lẫn spd) hay jaroda sweep (chỉ lấy speed và tự sướng = leaf storm) là main của team :-c , còn nhiều lỗ hỏng, mong được fix :D
 
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